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		<title>By: Sluuuuuuurp: That&#39;s Scotland Done, Norway? &#124; Today Headlines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sluuuuuuurp: That&#39;s Scotland Done, Norway? &#124; Today Headlines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Unprofessional Foul&#160;&#124;&#160;The Gers Info</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unprofessional Foul&#160;&#124;&#160;The Gers Info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Norfolk Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norfolk Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve, Rangers and Celtic took all the talent and other teams best assets, they also dominated the TV money. That is why the league is uncompetitive. The last TV deal was a mess and was the lowest ever because of this. If the league was competitive, the TV money would be greater and there would be more fans at games and a lot more interest. The fact it isn&#039;t competitive is down to the big two. Rangers haven&#039;t bothered to find home grown talent. There are 3 in their entire squad. They have just raped other teams. Celtic have ten in a squad of 40, but none of them play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve, Rangers and Celtic took all the talent and other teams best assets, they also dominated the TV money. That is why the league is uncompetitive. The last TV deal was a mess and was the lowest ever because of this. If the league was competitive, the TV money would be greater and there would be more fans at games and a lot more interest. The fact it isn&#8217;t competitive is down to the big two. Rangers haven&#8217;t bothered to find home grown talent. There are 3 in their entire squad. They have just raped other teams. Celtic have ten in a squad of 40, but none of them play.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the diagnosis, but I think it is more of a self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the necessary result of malicious action by Rangers and Celtic. There is no money because the teams suck, and the teams suck because there is no money. Yes, they took the best talent from the rest of the SPL to compete in Europe, and still can&#039;t, but that&#039;s what English (and all) clubs do, too. 

There isn&#039;t any money in the SPL, but that&#039;s not their fault, it&#039;s merely the result of a very small market. Both Glasgow and Edinburgh have had to reinvent themselves as viable cities because of a changing economic climate, and to be fair, not a lot of talented European players want to live in Aberdeen or Dundee. Should Hibs and Hearts be better teams? Definitely, but they don&#039;t have the money to invest. Somewhere the cycle has to broken, something has to change. But waiting around for homegrown talent to develop in Scotland is like trying to find a trophy wife at a liberal arts college when Arizona State is next door. Just ain&#039;t smart business. 

Could Rangers and Celtic better run clubs? Probably, but so could Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U, and Tottenham (I&#039;ll exempt Arsenal here because they are actually pretty well run as clubs go). I don&#039;t think it&#039;s all their fault they can&#039;t compete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the diagnosis, but I think it is more of a self-fulfilling prophecy rather than the necessary result of malicious action by Rangers and Celtic. There is no money because the teams suck, and the teams suck because there is no money. Yes, they took the best talent from the rest of the SPL to compete in Europe, and still can&#8217;t, but that&#8217;s what English (and all) clubs do, too. </p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t any money in the SPL, but that&#8217;s not their fault, it&#8217;s merely the result of a very small market. Both Glasgow and Edinburgh have had to reinvent themselves as viable cities because of a changing economic climate, and to be fair, not a lot of talented European players want to live in Aberdeen or Dundee. Should Hibs and Hearts be better teams? Definitely, but they don&#8217;t have the money to invest. Somewhere the cycle has to broken, something has to change. But waiting around for homegrown talent to develop in Scotland is like trying to find a trophy wife at a liberal arts college when Arizona State is next door. Just ain&#8217;t smart business. </p>
<p>Could Rangers and Celtic better run clubs? Probably, but so could Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U, and Tottenham (I&#8217;ll exempt Arsenal here because they are actually pretty well run as clubs go). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s all their fault they can&#8217;t compete.</p>
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		<title>By: Norfolk Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norfolk Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wedel. No thanks. Rangers and Celtic created the problem, let them make their little part of the world work again.</description>
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		<title>By: Wedel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wedel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may open up a can of worms, but here goes:  if Scotland can somehow maintain &#039;border integrity&#039; for the NT (i.e., FIFA permission), why not roll all Scottish teams into the League?

Is the English/Scottish animosity still that strong? I mean on a day to day hatred level.  Are we talking about happy Defcon 5 or evil Defcon 1?  Do Scots stand at Hadrian&#039;s Wall and taunt their southern neighbors of smelling of elderberries?

Realizing that logic may not enter the picture, north to south, the entire island is about 360 miles long (roughly the distance from NYC to Pittsburgh or NYC to Buffalo in a straight line).  The smaller clubs may require a solution to play locally (in divisions - i.e., Blue Square North/South), as their budgets may not permit frequent travel to the south coast of England, but the bigger clubs should be able to travel the longer distances.  I do realize a detrimental effect on fans, but really, who worries about them anymore?

Let &#039;em start at the bottom (or even some negotiated higher level, other than the Prem) and find out where they truly belong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may open up a can of worms, but here goes:  if Scotland can somehow maintain &#8216;border integrity&#8217; for the NT (i.e., FIFA permission), why not roll all Scottish teams into the League?</p>
<p>Is the English/Scottish animosity still that strong? I mean on a day to day hatred level.  Are we talking about happy Defcon 5 or evil Defcon 1?  Do Scots stand at Hadrian&#8217;s Wall and taunt their southern neighbors of smelling of elderberries?</p>
<p>Realizing that logic may not enter the picture, north to south, the entire island is about 360 miles long (roughly the distance from NYC to Pittsburgh or NYC to Buffalo in a straight line).  The smaller clubs may require a solution to play locally (in divisions &#8211; i.e., Blue Square North/South), as their budgets may not permit frequent travel to the south coast of England, but the bigger clubs should be able to travel the longer distances.  I do realize a detrimental effect on fans, but really, who worries about them anymore?</p>
<p>Let &#8216;em start at the bottom (or even some negotiated higher level, other than the Prem) and find out where they truly belong.</p>
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		<title>By: Norfolk Ned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norfolk Ned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luton Town disagree Hadley. No soup for you Rangers.</description>
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		<title>By: hadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>hadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them in but they have to start at the bottom.  Okay, maybe League Two.  Who gets to the EPL faster, Notts County or either Celtic or Rangers?</description>
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		<title>By: James T</title>
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		<dc:creator>James T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRAAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNAAAGGGGGEEE (of all the league&#039;s resources, TV money and players)</description>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re FINISHED!!!!!

/hammy
//still awesome
///No, really, Celtic and Gers are finished as &quot;big clubs&quot;</description>
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<p>/hammy<br />
//still awesome<br />
///No, really, Celtic and Gers are finished as &#8220;big clubs&#8221;</p>
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